Cameron Hanes, bowhunter, ultramarathon runner, podcaster, and author of Endure, joins Chris Williamson’s Modern Wisdom podcast to share insights from his new book Undeniable: How to Reach the Top and Stay There. 

In Undeniable, Hanes brings together outliers of today—men and women who are experts in their field—to share their unique and motivating perspectives on reaching the pinnacle of success and remaining there. Cam reveals the lessons he has learned from truly exceptional people. By examining their unique traits and abilities, you will earn an edge from these greats and add tools on your own journey toward greatness.

During the Modern Wisdom podcast, Cam and Chris explore the role of voluntary suffering in building resilience and achieving greatness. Expect to learn what drives Cam to do what he does and what being “undeniable” means to him, the hardest thing Cam has ever done physically, if hard work beats genetics and pedigree, how Cam raised his sons and and what he would do differently, how the average person can train themselves to deal better with suffering, how Cam would feel if he felt truly worthy of his achievements, and much more.